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| kissmyashlyn |
Clean of meth or not - how can you tell? Hello, I am curious to know how to tell if someone is clean or just acting like they are clean. Maybe he just learned how to "manage" his use? He used to inject and smoke. He is working full time, gained his weight back, he's going to NA and overall seems sane. He's still selfish and thinking about himself (meaning he expects other people to do what works best for him not considering what may be best for someone else-he doesn't concern himself with inconveniencing other people) and he's sometimes vengeful and will do things just to make my life more difficult. I wonder if he is sincere or just being manipulative.
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| vctry |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
How long has he been clean?
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kissmyashlyn |
Re: Clean
of meth or not - how can you tell?
clean for about 2 months
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| vctry7 |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
That sounds about normal. I was crazy for about a year after I quit. My husband was a total jerk, and I do mean a complete total jerk. We were both almost as bad as when we were using. A lot of family members didn't believe we were clean. I thought it would never get better. By the way, welcome to KCI. There are a lot of great people here that I am sure will add more soon.
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| kissmyashlyn |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell? thanks vctry! I pray that he is clean
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| scorpio |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
Have you heard of Alanon? Its a 12 step program for the loved ones of the addict. Check it out.
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| kissmyashlyn |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell? That's a very good idea Scorpio! The effects of this drug are so overwhelming for anyone involved in the addicts life.
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| Rachelsue76 |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
Quote: That selfishness is not always cause by meth use. Was he selfish before the meth use? If yes then chances are that he is just selfish. Some people are just that way.
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| Scared Angel |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
I have to agree with RachelSue.
This sounds more like a personality trait,
than a meth situation during early recovery.
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| kissmyashlyn |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
He was quite the opposite before his use. Very giving, thoughtful and responsible. He would help anyone who needed it and didn't expect anything in return.
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| Kellhappy |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
Two months is not very long. I know it can be tough to give the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully, if he continues to DO everything he should be doing clean, and not just SAYING he's clean, it might be easier to believe. Actions are what speak. I think a certain element of selfishness might be necessary for him right now. If he is clean, he is probably really uncomfortable. He is used to being high. That is a very selfish life. I was only concerned about getting and staying high when I used. It was me, me, me. How am I going to get what I need, when I need it. Now, he is concerned with how am I going to stay sober. How will I get to a meeting. How will I make it through this day clean. Hopefully, in time things will balance out. Bad habits and behaviors he's learned can be unlearned. Focus can be changed. I think the Alanon or Naranon is a good idea, too. It can be really good for a loved one to have their own meeting. It could be really helpful to you. Please don't forget that the most important thing for you to do is take care of yourself the best you possibly can. I'm glad you posted. Peace and Love,
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| Rachelsue76 |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
You know as loved ones when the people
that we love are using, we seem to think that "If only" they
would quit using then life would be good again. What we often
unintentionally ignore are the things that we read from other
people that are in recovery. We tend to think that if the using
is gone all the problems will be too. But recovery brings it's
own set of problems with it.
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Indiana shedevil |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
I totally agree with Rachelsue.. I had the same experience with my ex. In the beginning of the relationship he was kind compassionate caring and giving. That didn't last for very long. He proved how selfish he was. He was still that way in "recovery". Now it seems that he projects that he is a better person and that he isn't selfish. But the truth is that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It was very ironic reading the post about the pathological liars and this post about selfishness... Especially since I ran across the information on Narcissism. Some people have more issues than just addiction.
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| luvepiphany |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
I know shedevil, doesn't it just make ya wonder, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" Awww who cares today?? oh yeah, I still do But, tomorrow, tomorrow, I am going to do something fun! I'm not going to wonder anything except whether or not I can do something to make myself a little more joyful!
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Indiana shedevil |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
Luve... Did you read this part... Quote: I found it in one of the sections from the
link that you provided...
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| luvepiphany |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
Oh, it's a great day!! I'm just a still wondering a little-I admit it. I wouldn't be here if I wasn't wondering. How about, awww who cares!!! This evening I'm going to make a wonderful dinner for my 12 year old and I and maybe go to an NA meeting and be JOYFUL and thankful that I'm not a meth addict!? See, I am working joy into my recovery along with seeking knowledge and wisdom and peace....a few hours at a time. The hard stuff is healing but more often now, I am going to try to take a break and just have fun-forget for just a few hours then a few more but I don't think I can ever stop wondering completely. I still don't get much of the regular stuff done, but that's going to have to be ok. My message is trying to say that it's ok to quit wondering about those hard things in our lives-yes, right now, today---you are right-not tomorrow-RIGHT NOW (but I'd miss ya'll)
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Indiana shedevil |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
That's the ticket! Yeah, I have moments, too. But I look at the positive... The moments are fewer and farther between. The moments aren't paralyzing anymore. The moments are being replaced with better things. Enjoy dinner and your evening!!!
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| SOS1988 |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
I used to be a really nice guy, and still generally am I nice person but I won't give without expecting back or won't give unless I deem the person worth it. Meth has made me meaner and more bitter and I don't think that will ever go away, I see the trash in people and it disgusts me. I wont be as nice as I could have been and (in my humble opinion) he won't be either.
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| guestwho |
Warning: may trigger sex
addicts kissmyashlyn you said,
How long was he like this? Be really
honest with yourself because, ultimately, it is only going to
effect you. Perhaps, he was being all those positive attributes
you stated because he wanted something ( panties to drop,
companionship, etc. .) |
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Indiana shedevil |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
That was an honest to goodness brutal and very much needed wake up call...
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| luvepiphany |
Re: Clean of meth or not
- how can you tell?
Guestwho, do men want companionship? I have forgotten about those kind. Are they really out there? Oh, and your little panties drop line...well, ya know that's a trigger for sex addicts.... Wonderful response all in all. I need to ask myself those honest hard questions every day. I can't answer them completely yet, but it's important for healing to ask. |
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