always wondered about how meth affects someone's ability to operate
a car safely. Is it like drinking and driving. I know this may be a
stupid question, but I just don't know.
I don't know how my driving was when I
was doing it, but I felt like I drove fine, but who knows. The only
problem I had was what I was seeing when I was driving....like I was
always seeing something out of the corner of my eye so I was
constantly looking everywhere during my drive.
I didn't drive fast, I was usually under the speed limit and had to
speed up, which seems kind of backwards to me.
many will disagree with me, but I have not seen any evidence to
contradict my opinions.
Driving under the influence of any mind altering substance is not a
good idea. It should be avoided. Driving while going without sleep
should be avoided. Sleep renews and refreshes a person and helps the
senses to be more naturally alert and sharp.
That said, the notion of artificial stimulation has some merit. I’ve
gone for five years doing meth on a daily basis, sleeping only a few
hours daily on average. Riding a motorcycle most of the time, but
also driving a car to work, across country and many miles of freeway
and in-city driving. Zero accidents and only three or four speeding
Meth is a stimulant. It makes the person much more alert and
increases his reflexes and response time. That is if he is properly
rested which is often not the case but sometimes is.
If you will look on Doug's site,
you will see that the US govt. gives speed to pilots to make them
A drunk driver is infinitely more dangerous than a tweaker in my
Kevin was arrested while fleeing and eluding, driving stolen BMW on
the WRONG way of the freeway in San Diego - he stopped only when he
eyeballed the cop pointing the gun at him - Kevin was backing out of
a dead-end street -
Does that answer your question?
It doesn't answer the question about meth use.
Was Kevin using meth, or was he drinking, or neither, or both?
Does my story or your story make an exception to the rule or does it
support the rule?
counselor said if he drove behind the wheel while on meth he was
liable to kill himself or someone else. This counselor is a former
deputy who now runs an outreach program for troubled teens. He has
two sons who are former users.... one has been clean for years and
is now a deputy himself. The other has been thru rehab and still
struggles and uses.
Last week meth was the cause of a multi-car accident with injuries
We will make our son's truck payments until he graduates from his
in-house rehab program and is successful thru sober living.
Otherwise, we cut off all lifelines. Yesterday he attempted to leave
the rehab program. We reminded him of our contract and today he
realizes that yesterday was "just a bad day." Who knows what
tomorrow will bring but are trusting God. I say take the car keys
you all for all your answers and info on this subject. While I do
realize that meth addicts will act out in strange and crazy ways, I
was never quite sure how meth actually affects their alertnes,
reflexes, and response time. Thanks again.
that alters perception is something to be avoided while driving.
The concept that short term sanctioned use, and by short term I mean
one time in XX number of hours or days does not fit with the concept
of people using perception altering substances on a regular basis.
People driving under the influence of alcohol are often cited as
being a leading cause of accidents, high speeds etc. Yet I can cite
instances of persons drinking to excess and driving too slowly, too
cautiously to be considered safe for other drivers.
Yet the evidence of numbers of DUIs state differently than my
DUI means driving under the influence...doesn't say of what, just
under the influence. We assume alcohol in most instances.
This question has been presented previous to this thread, perhaps
some specifics would be in order...how much use, term of use, how
many hours awake, mental condition prior to use etc...
I for one have seen too many accidents and the destruction they
cause to be comfortable with the idea of anyone sharing the highways
with the people I know and love while under the influence of ANY
substance at all.
on meth - after partying all nite -
So you think he was sharp and alert and thinking he could get away
that way? He was bright enough (he told me) to stick to roadsides,
not driving into incoming cars...... who knows?.......
The only reason he got caught is that there was a lowjack on the car
- Kevin's been locked up so long he's in arrears as far as new
technology is concerned....or maybe not......for sure he knows a lot
after being locked up for so long.....
He writes now he'll never take anything that does not belong to
him.......I'm going with the flow....
Now, you and motorcycles and meth? Oh SFJ, that had to be
I see young guys going 90 on bikes and I always say, if your mother
could only see you now......
have been up for a few days-driving scares me-it's like the car is
moving faster than it really is and that ohter cars seem closer than
they really are. I really freaked out one time on a 6 lane hwy in
Atlanta-I thought I was going to die and kill a ton of people with
me.Driving on meth is NOT a good idea.
that's what I said in my original reply. But even more relevant is
the notion that meth should not be misused at all, driving or not.
Nevertheless, if someone has had a proper amount of rest, driving
while intoxicated on liquor is far more dangerous than driving while
They are both dangerous, one is more dangerous. IMHO
it depends on the users state of mind. i think it becomes unsafe if
the user is hallucinating or paranoid. from what i hear though other
than that they are usually more alert. and i would think that might
acually make them better drivers. but then again i dont use so what
do i know.
something that happens to me. While driving under the influence of
meth I would say I'm very carefull. Lets say a cop car is behind me.
What happens to me is a brief period of calm, followed by intense
focus on every little aspect of driving. The interior of the car and
everyone in it dissapears. When the cop car is gone, relief pervails
and then back to very careful with touches of anxiety because I'm
still amped up and cannot extinguish my relief at not getting pulled
over. For a period of time when I'm abstinent and my body has
recovered, I'll get over confident and drive like an a-hole. I'll
drive risky because I suppose I'm compensating and normal in
perspective is dull without the 'thrill'.
into a $4000.00 accident when I was driving high. Too busy tweaking
to drive or something.
There were many times that I knew I shouldn't be driving because I
was too high. If my boyfriend (at the time) was with me, I would ask
him how he was feeling and then tell him that he needed to drive,
because I was unable to handle the responsibility and would be a
danger to myself and others.
you all again for the information and for sharing your stories. Just
wanted to clear up that I'm not looking for reasons to make it ok to
do meth and drive or to be under the influence of any mind altering
drug and drive, including alcohol. My father is an alcoholic and has
had his license suspended permanently and I couldn't be happier
The reason why I posted the question is because I was wondering why
my son did not want his drivers license back for about 4 years. He
had several opportunities to get it back, but never showed any
interest in it. So now that he finally got it back because he was
trying to start a life without drugs, he received a speeding
ticket(which he just ignored) within the first two months of driving
and wrecked his company's work truck in the third month. He side
swiped a brick mail box and no one was hurt, but it totaled that
little truck. He left the the accident scene and disappeared for
several days until I finally found him at his "buddy's" house. He
told me that he had nodded of while driving and that's how the
accident happened, wouldn't that be hard to do while under the
influence of meth?? But I guess if he was tired because he has been
up for days and was coming down off the drug, it would still be
under the influence of meth?
the biggest problems with meth use is that it must stop.
What goes up, must come down.
Coming down is often as dangerous or even more dangerous than
Stopping a drug can be extremely dangerous.
Alcoholics and heroin addicts are especially at risk.
Meth users may inadvertantly fall asleep and so on.
Be careful about suggesting cold turkey withdrawal.
Better yet, don't get high in the first place.
<<He told me that he had nodded of
while driving and that's how the accident happened, wouldn't that be
hard to do while under the influence of meth?? But I guess if he was
tired because he has been up for days and was coming down off the
drug, it would still be under the influence of meth??? >>
There was incident here (in Australia) a few years back involving a
long distance truck driver who'd been using speed to stay awake for
the two day cross-country run. About a kilometre from his
destination in the city, he was heading down a big hill towards a
busy intersection on a major highway.
Just 'nodded off' and his massive semi trailer truck ploughed
through a Mercedes filled with half a dozen people sitting
stationary at the red light and then on into the traffic turning
across the intersection. I can't rehow many were killed but
it was not pretty.
If you check out any sites relating to amphetamine use with vehicles
or machinery in the workplace, you will find information warning
against effects on impaired judgement, inaccurate risk assessment,
effects of sleep deprivation etc.
With your son's recent driving record, sounds like it's time to
'trust you gut' on the causes.
I hope he IS staying clean
on meth isnt the best idea but isnt like drinking and driving in my
experience. but its a matter of level of intoxication too. The few
times I drove *really* spun I didnt drive well at all, all I could
think about was how the grip of my hands felt on the wheel... and
how they wernt quite symetrical... oops, moved the left, now I have
to move the right one, wait, am I swerving? Yeah, that was bad.
Mostly though I drove fine... never been in an accident and never
got pulled over....except once... but yeah, thats another story. The
danger I mostly hear is about people passing out at the wheel.... I
know serveral people who have fallen dead asleep in intersections.
"well, uhh, I was coming down so I had to drive across town to get
some... I'd been up five days... but.... well, I had to get some..."
Yeah, thats more dangerous in my experience but like Ma said,
anything that alters your perceptions cant be good when you're
controling the speed and direction of a few thousand pounds of