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Is it really true what they say about meth?

sdm sanjose	Is it really true what they say about meth? Is it really true what they say about meth? I have heard the following statements about meth after prolonged use. 1. Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite. 2. It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual perversion that a person can imagine. 3. Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the police or someone. 4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around fear and destruction. 5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and develops it into the worst possible extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will become extremely violent and a person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations increased dramatically. 6. Under the influence you have no conscience of your own. 7. With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. 8. Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth. Please explain why you think these statements are true or not
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Crystal Clear	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? It is true .... How do I know? Because I was an unknowing, SOBER witness to all the above, plus more. It is a nightmare I will never forget!
Sfj	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? 1 Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite. *No, it can twist some things, but not everything.* 2 It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual perversion that a person can imagine. *It lowers inhibitions in some people, not all.* 3 Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the police or someone. *Lack of sleep can create paranoia* 4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around fear and destruction. That can happen, but not as often as you might have heard. 5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and develops it into the worst possible extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will become extremely violent and a person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations increased dramatically. No. That can happen also, but it is more rare than the hysteria that promotes it. 6 Under the influence you have no conscience of your own. *Absolutely false. Meth may temporarily lessen one's ability to listen to his conscience.* 7 With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. *Totally false.* 8 Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth. In some cases, but rebellion is part of growing up for many youngsters.
nine years clean	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite. We relinquish everything that is sacred, as if we are possessed. But it doesn't twist love into the exact opposite. It null and voids love. It null and voids human emotion or compassion or sensibility. It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual perversion that a person can imagine. This was not my experience. I was faithful and loyal to my husband throughout my entire marriage of 15 years, and my entire addiction of 13 years. We got frisky, but nothing perverse, and no porn tapes or anything like that. Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the police or someone. It eventually gave me a sudden fear of the grim reaper more than anything else. Of hell. Of being found out and exposed and humiliated. Which in the end, I brought upon myself by confessing my crime and paying the hefty fine of prison. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around fear and destruction. *I only saw shadow people, and I don't know if they were there or not, but I saw them nonetheless. Meth psychosis IS REAL.* Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and develops it into the worst possible extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will become extremely violent and a person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations increased dramatically. I don't think this happened to me either. For most of my addiction years, 13, I held down a full time job as a legal professional with a husband and a home and community involvement and family functions and the legion hall once a week. Under the influence you have no conscience of your own. *What I realized later was that my conscience was still there, thank God, but silenced by my addiction.* With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. To distinguish the truth about what we hear or see or about what we do or say? Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth. *Not for me, but I was 27 when I began using meth. And stopped at 40. 13 years, but older and a mom and wife and full time employee.* Please explain why you think these statements are true or not I can only describe what was true or not true for me. Hope this helps you.
chris gonz	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? I think the effects of drugs is different with each individual. Some people have more will power than others and we all live on different levels of what's right or wrong. I think the length of time people use and those effects are different too. I know someone who's been strung out since 1980 and he's just mellow and sticks to himself, he looks a lot like he did when we were young and is totally cool but will defend himself. I know someone else who's been strung out just as long, and seems a mess. She's dishonest and always thinking about that next high. They are two VERY different people with the same problem and behave totally differently. So, you can't pose those kinds of questions to everyone who's used or uses and expect one answer. I used for years, I saw things, never stold from anyone, lied a lot, never let my grandmother see me high, took her shopping every month, raised good kids, did time..... I think I stayed pretty balanced, for an addict. I've seen others do MUCH better. Why do you ask?
sdm sanjose	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? Stan: With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. *Quote:* Lori: To distinguish the truth about what we hear or see or about what we do or say? Stan to Lori, I meant that to be unable to distinguish the truth about what you hear or see. *Quote:* Chris: Why do you ask? Stan to Chris: First, when I read or hear those kinds of statements it concerns me because they are pretty scary and my son is an addict. Second, I always try to get many sources of information about what concerns me. There are other reasons but they may not be that important. Chris when you said: *Quote:* “I know someone who's been strung out since 1980 and he's just mellow and sticks to himself, he looks a lot like he did when we were young and is totally cool but will defend himself. “ I have not heard any stories like that and I find that very interesting. Why do you think he has escaped the down side to meth?
eyes open83	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? i dont have time to answer them all but some are true and some are bullsh!t.... having no concience of your own is bullsh!t and anyone that uses any out side thing so to not take responsibilty is in fuking denial...it pisses me off when people say that sh!t... i did alot of fuked up thing when i was using,,alot of hurtful and melicious stuff...but i did that not the meth...fuking denial and a lack of responsibility sh!ts me
nine years clean	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? *Quote:* Stan to Lori, I meant that to be unable to distinguish the truth about what you hear or see. It wasn't that I didn't trust what I heard or saw, it was that I didn't trust myself to have heard it correctly or seen it accurately. I was painfully aware of how inept my perceptions were, but unable to correct them, or me, that is, until I got clean.
forget suzette	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? 1 Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite. It twists it, but whether it goes opposite or not.. ....no one knows. 2 It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual perversion that a person can imagine. I was already perverted. ...it gave me stamina. 3 Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the police or someone. not me. 4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around fear and destruction. nope...not for me. 5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and develops it into the worst possible extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will become extremely violent and a person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations increased dramatically. ....it develops it. but worst possible? I don't think theres a limit. you could always be worse. 6 Under the influence you have no conscience of your own. yes you do. ...it drops inhibitions. but I never did anything I'm ashamed of. ....because I had a conscience. 7 With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. it's the truth as you know it. .....everybody has one. everyones reality is different. 8 Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth. it is'nt rebellion. ............it's indifference.
Loraura	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? Prolonged meth use causes a marked chemical imbalance in the brain. This imbalance takes months to correct itself naturally in the absence of more meth. The chemical imblanace caused by meth is not notably different physiologically from other chemical imbalances caused by other diseases or natural causes. You can't cause a noteable chemical imbalance in your brain and expect to act, think, or react the way you would when your brain is chemically balanced. If you break it down to it's smallest components, it's a math equasion. All the neurotransmitter chemicals in your brain work together to form a (hopefully) balanced equasion. When balanced, you experience mental health. When out of balance, you experience mental illness. Just becuase it's self induced, does not alter the fact that the equasion is still out of balance. Meth and how it effects your brain's chemicals
Naiev Newlywed	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? *Quote:* 1 Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite. I would say it twists it, but the words "exact opposite" I wouldn't agree with. It turns normal love into a twisted love. I know that my meth addicted husband loved me the best way he could while using. Yes it was twisted, but not the exact opposite. *Quote:* 2 It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual perversion that a person can imagine. For my husband, yes, it opened the door to lots of pornography, but not EVERY sexual perversion. Hubby is very homophobic and did not go this route. He did call escort services all the time though and did have a dope whore or two. *Quote:* 3 Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the police or someone. Paranoia yes *Quote:* 5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and develops it into the worst possible extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will become extremely violent and a person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations increased dramatically. Yes, like SFJ says...meth gets too much credit sometimes. It doesn't make someone behave badly, it just enhances it. If a person's criminal side has maybe been 'dormant', meth will bring it out, but not necessarily turn them into a criminal. They already were one. *Quote:* 6 Under the influence you have no conscience of your own. I do not believe this. I used to because hubby always said "it was the dope, it was the dope". Now that he is learning to be honest, I know he had a conscience of his own. He knew what he was doing and he chose to do it. *Quote:* 7 With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. IMO, meth addicts start to believe that everything that comes out of their mouth is the truth. *Quote:* 8 Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth. Again, IMO, I don't think it's rebellion, I think it's fear on their part. Fear of losing to the truth. They want to protect their addiction at all costs, so anyone trying to help them is just wrong to them.
imlost inky	Re: Is it really true what they say about meth? *Quote:* 1 Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite No. I did not see that in myself, my husband, or my sister. My husband and I when using together, were the same -it did not change.Love was never the issue. I loved him then- I love him now. Our expression of love changed - for the better without use- but the love has always been. For my sister, she sent her son away because she loves him- period. She was unable to save herself- but she saved him. No courts took her son- she did the right thing on her own. She knew in addiction she was not the mother he needed- so while trapped in addiction, she sent him to me. Then when I was in my own addiction, she sent him to his grandmother. BECAUSE OF LOVE. True love- real love- unselfish love. *Quote:* 2 It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual perversion that a person can imagine. It can. I have not had that experience- neither did my sister. What perversions there may have been were already there prior to meth and after meth. For my husband, I saw nothing I hadn't seen before. So no. *Quote:* 3 Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the police or someone. It can. Yes, it did - for me.One time a couple guys came over- one I knew from my sister and her husband at the time, the other was a roommate of theirs. They came over looking to see if we had any dope. During the course of the conversation, it got very heated- yes, Stan, I was afraid of them beating me up ,not rape or anything- and I was angry- and I threw them out of my home and had my husband bring me a gun home so if the situation ever occured again, I would drop them both where they stood. Looking back, the whole situation was absurb- bullshyt. Ignorance at it's finest. So yes, while at the moment it did not feel irrational , it was irrational- Yes with my sister- very much so. I don't know though that it was irrational- when she was seeing FBI/DEA agents on the roof tops, that was irrational. They weren't there. But when she was pulled over , and had dope in the car, that was not. Irrational with other people- well, Yes, Sleep deprivation caused her to feel a lot of fears.She thought her boyfriend was trying to electrocute her. She thought he was trying to hang her. She thought he was trying to kill her with a bad batch of dope- Yes.That did happen- a lot. *Quote:* 4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around fear and destruction. I never saw anything that wasn't there. Neither has my husband. and Yes with my sister- part of which is listed above. *Quote:* 5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and develops it into the worst possible I my opinion yes it can. It did not for me or my sister. Am I violent ? No- Can I be? Yes, if threatened I sure can. Would my using meth make me more violent? No Stan, I don't think it would. I don't see how when I did allow my anger to control me that I could have gotten worse. I mean focusing in on someone's neck and blacking out because I would be so angry - I think that is as bad as I could get. Having to have all of my sons hold me back- no Stan, meth can't take credit for that. I don't do well when people threaten my children or their own.Period.I don't do well when any of my family is threatened. Meth did not cause that one- I think that one comes from my Momma. She didn't like it anymore than I did. My sister is the same way.Before meth, during meth, after meth- it has always been. It is a trait that was always scary- always. *Quote:* 6 Under the influence you have no conscience of your own. No. In extreme psychosis, maybe- but No, not with my sister, myself, or my husband- or anyone else we knew. We may not have listened to it- but it was still there. *Quote:* 7 With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible. Reality is difficult to distinguish but truth is not. How I saw things when I was using and how they really were did not match- but I have always known a lie. Always. *Quote:* 8 Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth. I can't answer that Stan- my sister, my husband, myself - we have always been rebellious. Always. All of us have always been one to do something just because we were told not to. Always. After all of us found our voice due to childhood abuse, that has been a given. That is why we all butt heads. Meth did not give us that one- we already had it.