Is this the new meth of
today's "justifiable" usage? I was put on phentermine to lose
weight, however, my husband (who used to be a meth user/dealer)
uses it when he comes off then end of his work hitch working all
night to stay awake.....He doesn't act irrational or
paranoid...but he does have the twitching jaw...the dilated
pupils, etc. and it freaks me out....
Are we playing with fire here????
didn't ask for it...I offered and now I feel like an idiot....He
doesn't want more but the side affects really threw me for a
Am I playing Russian roulette here???
Did you read the
accompanying information that comes with drugs from the
pharmacy? If not, do your own research and/or ask a pharmacist.
They can assist you.
I think the answers to
your questions are self-evident.
If you need more info, there is a ton of it available on the
A Google search for "Phentermine" will yield more than enough
For us to tell you what to do, is what I'd call foolish.
Do what you want, but, realize the danger.
If you are looking for condemnation - nope - can't do it.
If you are looking for permission - nope - can't do that either.
If it were me, I'd avoid it. Because it is a central nervous
system stimulant. It is an amphetamine, or at least the chemical
structure is amphetamine-like to such an extent that I'd
consider it a form of speed.
A doc may disagree with me. Maybe taking it as a dietary
medication is indicated. I don't know.
Do you think anything good will come of it?
Weigh the pros and cons.
No, I don't think
anything "good" per sey will come of it but it has been sitting
in my medicine cabinet for over 1 year and my hubby has never
touched it (I counted the pills because I'm just weird that way)
and the only time he has taken it is to stay awake....
I know I sound like an idiot here but I just don't think my
hubby misses speed....he has adult ADHD and is treated for that
and always tells me his ADHD meds do for him the same thing meth
did.....he says that's why he did it and that's why it was so
easy to walk away from...
IDK....just looking for some input and all the input is greatly
I had to laugh a bit at
Isn't that the way we addicts think ?
it has been sitting in my medicine
cabinet for over 1 year
"Like, OMG, if its in there, we have to
I know that's how my "addict" thinks.
Why not just throw it
out. Then you have nothing to worry about. If he is on meds from
the Doctor he doesn't need to be self medicating with left over
meds, and you don't know what will happen when you start mixing
that with the drugs that that DR has given him My son has ADHD
and takes adderall. When I'm tired and drained I don't go to the
medicine cabinet and help myself to his adderall to help me stay
awake, just because it's there doesn't make it OK for me to take
it. I do what I need to do without a drink or a drug, IMHO it's
the only way.
Isn't that the way we addicts think ?
LOL - It used to be how I thought that and
if one works two work better.
Phentermine IS addictive.
It IS an amphetamine.
I know. I was addicted to it.
After using it for much longer than recommended by the drug
manufacturer (by doctor shopping to get more) it slowly lost
it's desired effect, and was only required for me to function.
I was a diet pill junkie.
I can not say enough about this drug to deter people from using
In addition to everything
that has been said already, I want to add that I don't know a
single person who didn't put back EVERY POUND (And then some,
JUST LIKE METH,) when the phentermine was discontinued.)
Remember "Fen - Phen"... it was taken off the market because
people were having cardiac arrest from the combination of these
The "Phen" in the "Fen - Phen" is Phentermine.
Flushed the bottle
guys....thanks....talked it over with hubby and he said he
didn't care what I did with the pills so I flushed em....out of
sight out of mind!
Thanks for all your responses, however, I do have another
My husband is on Ritalin for Adult ADHD....isn't that legal
speed as well?
His Dr. knows about his past use and had no problems putting him
on ritalin because he has been clean for over 3 years....she was
also the one who told us that alot of people with ADHD turn to
meth to help them feel "normal"....they don't get the same
"high" that others get...it just levels them out...this was what
my husband tells me he experienced and said that is why he was
able to drop meth so abruptly and didn't crave it....his
withdrawals were almost non-existent other than he did eat
Dunno....what do you think?
Good for you flushing the
meds. Taking meds prescribed by a doctor in the doses that are
prescribed is not drug abuse. Buying meth from someone on the
street even for the purpose of self medicating is drug abuse. My
16 year old takes aderall he hates it but has come to realize
that he needs it. His 18 year old brother was stealing the
aderall when he was 16 that was drug abuse.
Ya you do -- ME.
I don't know a single person who
didn't put back EVERY POUND (And then some, JUST LIKE METH,)
when the phentermine was discontinued.)
But only by using a 12 step program to stop using food as a
However, without OA, every time I'd try to quit, I'd gain back
15 pounds or so very quickly which, in my mind, was terrifying
enough to go back to the pills.
It took me 3 months of no diet drugs, and a program to enable me
to abstain from compulsively overeating, before i started losing
Talk about frustrating!!!
Eating what would logically cause any normal person to lose
weight, for 3 months straight, and not lose a damn pound!!!
It took that long for my metabolism to recover.
talked it over with hubby and he said
he didn't care what I did with the pills so I flushed em
What would you have done if he DID care?
What if he had said he wanted to keep them around, just in case?
If you have an addict in the house, recovering or not, why would
you ask what they wanted done with the pills? I'm not trying to
attack you, I'm just not sure I understand.
If I had pills like those lying around, the last thing I'd do is
ask my husband what he wanted me to do with them.
No attack, I promise.
Does he take the Ritalin
as prescribed? Or does he skip days and then overdo it?
To answer your
questions....yes he does take his ritalin as prescribed, and
actually, he hates having to take a pill everyday to help him
stay focused and on task at work.
If he misses a dose (I have to remind him alot), he just skips
that day and continues the next with his normal dosage.
I understand your concern and query about me asking him what he
thought about me flushing the pills...let me clarify, I flushed
them then asked him how he felt about it and he said he didn't
care....He has only taken one since I had them and we tried it
to help him stay awake because he had to pull a double at
work....he said he didn't like the way it made him feel so he
never took anymore. Sorry if I didn't clarify that better...I
get to rambling...
Anywho....he is very good about taking his meds properly and in
fact he was only diagnosed and treated for ADHD because I saw a
problem with his inability to focus, communicate, etc....these
were all problems he has had since he was a child and he was
just never diagnosed...they just wrote him off as being stupid
and threw him into special ed classes...
Now he makes 80k a year and we have new home a new baby and he
has been at the same job for 3 years and is the supervisor of
his crew....things couldn't be better...
I just come up with these questions from time to time because I
think so much about things until they start driving me crazy so
I come here...
Thanks to all for listening and responding!! I really appreciate
my husband used to take
phentermine to 'help' with the comedown...
it wasn't good...
Are we playing with fire here????
IMO...yes you are. Why risk it? When that
doesn't become enough...which it will... then what...METH?
Become enough for what?
He never took the phentermine to get a fix or anything of the
sort....he had to pull a double I offered and he reluctantly
took it...didn't like the way it made him feel (the same as
meth) and never took it again...it's been flushed....
This man....as hard as you may find it to believe....does not
have a "problem" with meth....yes he used it and used it when it
was around but it never had a hold on him....that's why I am
puzzled and wrote the topic about ADHD saving him from
addiction....he could care less if he used it or not and walked
away from it cold turkey with one swoop!.....No withdrawals...no
cravings...nothing, just weight gain....
I really think there is something to people with ADHD and the
different affect that amphetamines have on them....hubby says he
never felt pleasure from meth....just did it to stay awake to
party longer and to get things done....odd thing is he DID get
things done...never left projects hanging or stuff laying around
everywhere in multiple pieces....he has a condition and it is
mental and amphetamines (ritalin) help him immensely without the
sever side effects of junky meth....
your in denial....