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Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Lion
Freq |
Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
I have been diagnosed with ADHD
and am prescribed Adderall XR. I don't, however, think my doctor
would have prescribed it for me if I had told him that I was
smoking, snorting, eating Meth for 6 months. My question is, can
Adderall produce the same negative physical effects that Meth
does. Should I stop taking it and pursue a non-amphetamine ADHD
medication? As you can tell, I am not very educated on all this.
Newbie to the forum as well. |
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le
grumps |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Welcome to the forum Lion!
You should definitely tell your doctor that you were/are using
speed. If you are still using, a lot of the disorganization, and
all that is a result of the meth use.
My mom takes Adderall and complains that when she runs out or
needs another dose, she feels run down. I don't think it's to
the same extreme as meth.
One of the folks on this forum uses Adderal, perhaps she can
tell you more.
I used Adderall as a way to wean off of meth. That was
definitely not the correct way to use it.
Amphetamines are amphetamines, and if you are using meth now,
adderral is not going to be much help. Amphetamines are
amphetamines, and it's the dose that really makes the
difference.
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| Penelope |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
I imagine you could abuse it the
way you abuse anything else. Use it as directed, and see how it
goes.
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Rancid
One |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Where I'm confused is... Are you
actively using? If so you shouldn't be worried about the doc
prescribing you adderall, you should be worried about putting
down the dope. The adderall won't do @#%$ for you if you are
still getting high on meth. A lot of the add symptoms will
greatly lessen once you have some clean time under your belt. If
you truly do have ADD, then yes, a lot of the symptoms will
remain. I'm holding off on going to the doc for ADD meds until I
have more clean time on my side to be sure I get the right
treatment.
(that and when i called the mental health clinic they said they
don't treat ADD And I don't have insurance.)
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| Penelope |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
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(that and when i called the mental
health clinic they said they don't treat add. And I don't
have insurance.)
Have you considered calling back and
asking again? You may have just gotten a hold of some Lop with
his head up his butt - that makes no sense to me!
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25 years
but no
more
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Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
I take adderal and it makes the
difference between whether I sit around all day just THINKING
about things to do, or if I actually get things done during the
day. I used meth for 25 years, and I have used adderal for about
6 months. I can tell you first hand that adderal is not
methamphetamine. Never has been, never will be. It is a
stimulant that stimulates the areas of my brain that controls my
ability to stay focused and stay on task, my memory is more
clear, and I no longer constantly change topics in the middle of
sentences. Meth does not stimulate these same areas of my brain.
I can sleep on it, eat on it, and go without it for days without
having withdrawals. I do not have mood swings on adderal, but I
do have them severely when on meth. I can FEEL happy, sad, or
lonely, and I couldn't with meth. It is sort of like comparing
apples to oranges as far as I am concerned.
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Lion
Freq |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Thanks for all the great
feedback. In reference to some of the replies, no, I am
currently not using. I have put the dope down and seriously plan
on keeping it that way. It has been 19 days since I last used.
When I was using, I would frequently have the problem of my skin
itching (feeling like I had bugs crawling on me). I also had
hallucinations when I stayed awake for extended periods of time.
Previously the Dr. had me on 30 mg of Adderall (taken once in
the morning). Last week he increased to 30 mg twMeth a day. When
I take the increased dosage, I start to have that same skin
crawling thing. The Adderall does truly help my focus and I am
able to eat / sleep etc. Although, when I take the double dose I
am not able to sleep. My concern is...why is the Adderall making
me skitz? Or is because I have only been clean for 19 days?
Thanks again!
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Mary
Mary |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
I was thinking the same thing too because ADD is a mental
illness. But it could be that they don't have the right kind of
staff to diagnose it.
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forget
suzette |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
it doesn't for me. we're
practically related! *hugs*
...I snorted, smoked, and ate meth for 22 years because I didn't
know I was adhd.
you might try to abuse it.. ...but you soon realize if you
do, you are loosing your days of focus. it's not the same
drug. no matter how much adderrall you take.
....it's NOT meth. I won't become meth in mass quantities.
It doesn't effect me the same way.
my family is happy with my behavior, not pissed off.
like pen said, try it and see.
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Miz
Ricochet |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
First of all....no, Attention
Deficit Disorder and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
have not to this day been officially classified as a mental
illness or brain disorder. Any responsible mental health clinic
will admit they don't treat anyone for ADD/ADHD, because they
haven't been classified as an illness or true disorder yet.
Second, if any mental health professional did treat a person for
ADD/ADHD, knowing it hasn't been classified as a illness or
disorder can be treated with stimulants, then they could face
lawsuits from many who are being diagnosed as ADD/ADHD for
malpractMeth.
Third, if you go into all the scientific research of stimulant
drugs such as methylphenidate (Ritalin) and amphetamine
(Dexedrine, Adderall), you will find that the companies that
manufacture these drugs are the same people who are behind
funding these research labs. There are no independent research
labs to this day that has put these drugs to a test.
Fourth, and this is what has really ticked me off. There has
been such an increase of children in the United States, mostly
of Hispanic and American Black cultures, who have been diagnosed
with ADD/ADHD. Whites and Asians have a substantial lower
diagnosis of these so called disorders. Out of those
diagnosis's, the majority of them are boys.
On a personal level, both my brother and I were diagnosed with
ADHD when we were children. My brother was the one that was
prescribed Ritilan. He was the zombie and didn't have a social
life with playmates. I was very alert (hyperactive) and had a
social life with my playmates.
What my brother and I did have in common, was poor
concentration, not being able to stay on task, had low grade
scores in school, disruptive at times and we basically kept
adults running for their money. We were a pair of sticks of
dynamite together.
As we became adult, my brother chose to use Adderall (a legal
speed), prescribed by a doctor. On the other hand, I chose to
use nicotine, heroin, acid, bennies, crack, and crank (all
illegal speeds), from the streets. Both my brother and I managed
our behavior with speed....no matter what name it came by.
However, as in our case, we were both speed freaks and addicted
to them the same. Along with our addiction, we both experienced
the same negative reactions that all speeds can induce a human's
brain or body. There is not one speed, rather it is produced in
a legal lab or street lab, that doesn't produce the same
negative reactions.
Also, after we both stopped using our choMeth of speed, we have
found that we developed problems that never existed when we were
first diagnosed with this so called ADHD. Furthermore, we have
both been diagnosed with having Neurtransmitter Disorder, which
is a damage of the sensory response between the brain and
nerves, and is a direct result of speed use.
Then, when my oldest daughter was labeled ADD and then my
youngest son was labeled ADHD, I pulled out the stops and didn't
allow them to be medicated with any stimulant. I used a behavior
modification technique, that helped them learn how to improve
their own concentration and help them to learn how to control
their own impulsive behaviors. They are doing well with this.
And, I think the reason why I was so determined to not allow the
Ritilan and Adderall propaganda (which is the reason why there
is such an increase is misdiagnosing of ADD/ADHD), is that I
didn't believe that my children should be drugged up to fit in
with what the mainstream of society thinks they should.
Now, getting back more to the original topic at hand:
Quote:
I have been diagnosed with ADHD and
am prescribed Adderall XR. I don't, however, think my doctor
would have prescribed it for me if I had told him that I was
smoking, snorting, eating Meth for 6 months. My question is,
can Adderall produce the same negative physical effects that
Meth does. Should I stop taking it and pursue a
non-amphetamine ADHD medication? As you can tell, I am not
very educated on all this. Newbie to the forum as well.
This is my personal response, not a
professional one.
If I were your doctor, I wouldn't prescribe any stimulant based
upon the fact that speed is speed, no matter how you name it.
Why would I want you to become a drug addict to Adderall, if I
really had your best interest in mind? Especially, if I knew you
already were addicted to Meth. But, I am not your doctor...and
more importantly, I am not you.
Yes, Adderall does produce the same negative physical effects
that Meth can. Please take a look at this url addy:
www.healthscout.com/rxdet.../main.html
I don't know about you, but the information in the url addy
above sounds like normal negative physical effects as any tweak
on Meth to me.
Please know that we are not medical professionals, nor are we
mental health professionals.....so, none of us should be telling
or advising you in any way, to either keep taking Adderall or
stop using it. Furthermore, none of us should be telling you to
do any other forms of non-amphetamine treatment either.
Your life is not our business to screw up if what we advMeth you
to do messes you up. All we can do is provide you information
about drugs and provide you the resources of various treatments,
but it is you that must decide for yourself what way you will
go.
However, I will say to you that from my own personal experience,
I had to look in the mirror one day and accept that I was made a
multi-tasking and fast thinker. Yes, it has it's moments of
being scatter brained, and yes I can put the cart before the
horse at times, if ya know what I mean.
However, I am not about to let a LEGAL drug pusher deal me over
drugs that are the same as ones ILLEGAL drug pushers dealt on
me, just because I don't think or behave like the mainstream
folks do.
Yes, I have to work harder than they do to keep my thoughts
organized so that I can focus on and complete tasks. Yes, I have
to work harder than they do to control any behaviors that could
cause negative results. However, turning my back on all drug use
and learning how to cope with myself has been awesome....and I
learned that I can do whatever I set my mind to do.
What I would suggest to you, is to do Google searches on ADHD
and all the treatments that are available out there. I use
meditation therapy to relax my brain and get it to slow down. I
also use calendars, notes, and to do lists, to keep me on track
(which does require much self-discipline). There are many
websites out there that you can get information on all of this.
Just seek and you shall find!
Anyway, I do wish to see you drug free, personally speaking.
Being clean and staying clean has been so awesome to me. And, I
would like you to know what life is like being drug free, as I
have.
Take care |
forget
suzette |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
you have a lot to say about
something you apparently know nothing about.
until you feel the frustration of inability to hold a thought
long enough to complete a task.
THEN you tell me it's not a disorder.
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Mary
Mary |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Maybe a little wording makes a
difference. ADD/ADHD IS a mental disorder. You may need to
recheck the DSM-IV to make sure.
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Second, if any mental health
professional did treat a person for ADD/ADHD, knowing it
hasn't been classified as a illness or disorder can be
treated with stimulants, then they could face lawsuits from
many who are being diagnosed as ADD/ADHD for malpractMeth
Do you know how many plain M.D's diagnose and
treat ADD/ADHD?
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forget
suzette |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
under
"mental disorders" at psych central
we put the disorder in mental!
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Miz
Ricochet |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Did you not read that I was
diagnosed as a child with ADHD?
That I have struggled with feeling the frustration of inability
to hold a thought long enough to complete a task? That I have
had two children diagnosed (one with ADD and one with ADHD) as
such and watched them with the same struggles?
The above reason as well as all the research I have done for
many many years about this through organizations, many medical
professionals, as well as mental health professionals....is the
reason why I say so much about it. So, please don't attack me
personally, by telling me that I don't know unless you have
walked in my shoes, too.
I am not about to classify Attention Deficit or Attention
Deficit Hyperactivity as a mental illness or brain disorder by
it's self, when even the American Mental Health Association
doesn't do it...but states that Attention Deficit or Attention
Deficit Hyperactivity accompanies other mental or health
disorders that are classified as such.
But, that wasn't what his original questions were about. He was
asking if Adderall and Meth produced the same negative physical
effects. There are clear cut indications that this is true. Even
from the drug company that makes Adderall, you can get a list of
the side effects and events and see for yourself that they both
have the same negative side effects.
Second of all, he was asking for medical advMeth on rather to
stop or keep taking Adderall, which should not be given by any
one of us, as we are not physicians or mental heath
professionals...abd what if he does keep taking it or stop
taking it, based upon what someone here says to him, and it
screws brain or body, or worse yet, causes him to die?
I was simply giving information based upon my personal knowledge
and experience, telling him how I feel PERSONALLY about it, gave
him the url addy so he could read what the negative side effects
are of Adderall...most of all, I wanted to help him to learn how
to do research on his own, so he can make a informed choMeth
along with his doctor.
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no more
mething
around |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
My 16 year old off ADHD meds :
Depressed, suicidal, cutting, flunking, violent, insecure,
reclusive, dark and scary. On 54mg of Concerta ( non
stimulant ) he is: happy , making better grades, sweet, loving
friendly, outgoing, organized , helpful, etc. .......... I thank
God for his doctor and the team of all of us stepping in to help
this young man have a chance at life. I no longer care to argue
whether or not adhd exists. No one wants to give their child
unnecessary meds. This was our last choMeth and I wish it would
have been our first. Not all meds are created equal. My son had
bad side effects from Adderall but Concerta is working
wonderfully. Do tell your Dr. about the drug use. You can't give
half an answer and expect to get appropriate care.
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forget
suzette |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
lets
have a look at what the mental health ass. says...shall we?
not that I care.
....but if anyone would like to get technical lets do it.
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Mary
Mary |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
I know. In school, before a
child can receive any type of special education servMeths, they
must fall within the guidelines of a disabling condition and
ADD/ADHD is one of them.
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no more
mething
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Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Also, good for you on having 19
days off meth. Like Miz R. said, you owe it to yourself to
research this and make an informed choMeth on your own care. It
will be much easier on you off meth. Spend some time here. That
is what this is for.
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forget
suzette |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
I didn't mean to attack
you.....I'm sorry.
I was a speed freak, before i knew what adderrall was.
meth wrecked my f*cking life, but allowed me to connect the
loose wires in my head to draw and create. adderrall is my
only hope.....I can draw now, my family is pleased with my
behavior. it is my saving grace.
I got defensive just like you were attacking something i believe
in and i do.
I also got defensive that you seemed to be saying what I'm going
thru is like a thing i made up..
.....which would also be a depersonalization disorder, or
psychotic episode in itself.
I'm sorry again.
..I'm very passionate about telling people before they waste
their life on meth ...that there are legal solutions. and
your post went against the very reason I'm here. however..
you got my mind off my problems with it and I send you all my
love.
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| katelin24 |
Re: Is Adderall as bad as Meth?
Is that kind of like stubbing
your toe to forget your broken arm? glad it worked so well. |
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