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| bookrat21 |
In love with meth addict, what do I do?Hey. My name is Jackie. I am not an addict, but I am in love with one. Is it possible for this to ever work? He has been using for almost ten years. I have known him for 20 (since junior high) & have always considered him my best friend. We have been dating (again) for over a year and a half and living together for about a year. It seems it is a constant battle between us. I know he can be the man he used to be, he was clean when we started dating. I have tried ultimatums, they just don't work. He makes me feel guilty. Several of his friends are in prison, I just can't understand all of this. I don't know what to do, I don't want him to end up in prison or dead. He says I don't understand the mind of an addict, but I feel he just uses excuse after excuse. He blames me for a lot of his problem lately & that makes me feel even worse. I want to tell him to leave and not come back until he is clean, but he says I am turning my back on him & I am supposed to be his friend. I don't know what to do about the constant sleeping, mood swings, etc. If it were just me, I could maybe do it. But I have two kids & I don't want to put them in any kind of harm's way. Is there any kind of way to help him stop or am I fighting a losing battle? Do I continue to look the other way & hope he figures it out on his own or do I put my foot down? Anyone?
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| imlostinky |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
I can't make that decision for you- I can only share what I know to be true. First, you can't control his addiction. Second, you didn't cause his addiction. Third, you can't cure his addiction. Periods of abstinence aren't unusual - but know that until he changes him, nothing will change for him. You can't make him quit - ultimatums don't work. If he is not willing to face his problem, work through his problems to find real solutions, there just isn't a lot you have a choice about. One thing you always have a choice is how much his addiction controls you. You do have the power to decide what you will live with and what you will not. You can change you. You don't have to lose yourself in his addiction. Would I willingly knowingly expose my children to an active addict? No f-king way- uh uh. That is my opinion. It is hard enough for us adult loved ones to handle and cope with. No child deserves that life. Hang around, lots to learn, and you are definitely in the right place. |
| sickidsgurl |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Hello Jackie, Welcome to KCI. Sounds to me that you may have some co-dependency issues. I'm sure someone with more knowledge on that issue will be by shortly. Also why would you make ultimatums when you know you will not follow through. He picks up on that I'm sure so.... Hmmmm I was addicted for like 11 yrs or so give or take, and NO ONE and I mean NO ONE could make me stop. I had to finally want it bad enough for myself. And as long as you are enabling him and making life comfortable for him he probably won't find a good enough reason to quit. Anyway that's just my opinion. Good Luck Jackie.
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| Loraura |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
If you can not be happy with what he has to offer right now, then I suggest you look at what you have the power to change. Can you make him change? No, unfortunately not. Is he showing through his actions that he is trying to change? Did not sounds like it to me, but is something to look at. This addiction of his is not new. It's been going on for years and years and is part of who he IS. If he's not actively trying to change who he IS, then he IS who he IS and you have to base your decisions on what and who he IS right now. His guilt trips are a way for him to protect his environment. Do not be swayed by guilt trips.
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| cortyshell |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Anything is possible. Quote: No he can't, at least not in my mind....
How could you, you aren't an addict and it isn't your job to understand how an addict's thought process works.
What else would you expect him to say? Guilt is a very powerful tool, and one of the few an addict possesses. Quote: They are who you
should be carrying a heavy load of guilt for. You already have
put them in harms way. Think about them, they are the only
people you owe anything to. How would you feel if one of them
stumbled upon his stash and ate a rock? I guess "understanding
an addict" wouldn't seem so important then.
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silly veronica |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Welcome to the board, Jackie. I have spent the last 4 years with an addict, in your exact same position (high school friends, reconnected at age 31, 3 years together (1 year in prison)). Stick around and you will see that your situation isn't unlike many on this board. We all have our subtle differences, but when meth is involved, the story is pretty much the same. I also have two children and the guilt with knowing you have put them in a position to be exposed to the effects of this horrendous drug is overwhelming at times. My addict moved out last October (a year ago) and came back/forth many times. Addicts will lie and manipulate to make you believe what they want ... I just recently found out that my addict has been using this ENTIRE time (while all the while I truly believed he had periods of clean time - not true). You probably feel like you already have a lot invested in the relationship - he's making you feel guilty for "turning your back on him" (you're not) ... what you have to understand is that there is nothing you can do to make him stop using - it's a decision he needs to make for himself. And even when he makes that decision, it's not enough. Stopping the use of meth is the first step - but the next step is searching deeper to find the underlying reasons that made him use in the first place. He needs to address those issues, work to resolve them, and through that process, he will start his recovery. But you can't decide when, you can't tell him it's time - he has to come to that realization on his own. From someone who has ridden this rollercoaster ride for almost 4 years ... I would say separate, let him do what he wants to do, make him pick what he wants, and then FOLLOW THROUGH with what you say. If he chooses the meth lifestyle, then let him, but take care of you and your children first and foremost. When/if he asks for help, you can be supportive of him, but the rest is up to him. I would absolutely, positively, not allow an active addict around my children - NO WAY! |
| JamieJ1979 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Setting rules or ultimatums do not work. They just don't. I've tried those tactic's myself with no luck. My boyfriend of 4 years is a addict and I'm a recovering addict so I have been on both sides of the fence. I know that I couldn't get clean or stay clean until I really hit rock bottom and wanted help. In the past I tried getting clean but I was really totally into it. I was trying to please my family and friends, or to get my life back together so I could use successfully. I realized there is no way to use successfully, anytime I use drugs I experience negative consequences. Your guy isn't going to stop until he's ready. You want to know how you might be able to help? By letting go. You can't control him or his actions, you can't drive yourself obsessing about whether he's using or not. You didn't cause his problem and you cannot cure it. It took my life getting really out of control for me to want to change. When my family was giving me money or a place to stay or a car to drive I had no reason to stop using, I wasn't experiencing any negative consequences yet. When I gave my addict money, a place to stay even if he only came home to sleep and recharge before going out and using again, access to my car, food, all the normal things we take for granted--when I gave him those things he had no reason to think of not using because he wasn't experiencing any negative consequences. He was getting to use drugs and still have all the comforts of a normal life. A addict needs a host to survive, someone to feed them, give them shelter, maybe even money, maybe even a car. You take those comforts away and sometimes they wake up and realize how bad life has become. I'm currently 9 months pregnant with my first child. My addict is no longer living with me because of his drug use. Sure I talk to him daily and see him a lot and he spends the night once a week but mainly we're in contact because I'm pregnant and I could have the baby at any time. I've allowed him to be around me more lately because I didn't want to be alone in case I go into labor. Still I cannot count on him because he stays clean for 5-7 days and then uses for 1-2 days and then doesn't touch the stuff for another week blah blah blah. I told him last night that I've accepted the fact that he might not be around when I have the baby. I'm due Sunday. I've also accepted the fact that I will most likely be a single Mom, thank god I live with my Mom and she's very supportive. His mother is very supportive too. I told him I cannot deal with him anymore and that he disgusts me. I don't even want him to come over when he's not using because I hate the up and down. The normal behavior for a week then he disappears to go use and then steps back into my life when he's done using for few days. I will not subject my son to his crap. I want to cut all ties. That's how I feel right now. I'm just done. I feel numb. Save yourself and your kids, he's a grown man that's capable of taking care of himself. He just chooses to live the way he's living right now. Get the book Codependent No More, it's soooooooo helpful. It helped me more than you can imagine. Even if you don't identify with being a codependent the book is still so helpful in how to deal with a addict in a healthy way without enabling. This site is great for advice and support, stick around and read the book. Welcome to KCI.
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| bookrat21 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
OK...so how do I do this? Do I wait until I am sure he is using again, or do I just go home today & tell him to get out? My son loves him so much, I'm not sure how he is going to react... yet another guilty feeling for me. I'm just not sure how to do what I know is the right thing without hurting everyone involved. I hate hurting people.
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silly veronica |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Quote: Deep down, don't you already know that he is? Follow your gut - mine has NEVER been wrong. Quote: I went through this too - I K-N-O-W how much it hurts, how the guilt can be overwhelming ... but the guilt will be worse if you continue to allow an addict around your son (I know this too, because once I separated myself from my addict and really stepped back and saw the big picture - MAJOR guilt for putting my children through that). There is still time to fix it though, still time to make the right choice. Quote:Yep, me too. Again, -- did I mention that I'm a codependent? When I came to this board a year ago, I had total misconceptions about that word and I was offended that anyone would imply that I was codependent. I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but just from your two posts, I would gather that you're codependent too (and that's okay). Do get the book "Codependent No More" - it's a starting place to see how you've ended up in this position that you're in. And also - stick around this board and find out as much about addiction as you can. Spasemonkey had a great post (I know someone recently brought it back to the top) - READ, READ, READ. You're not alone!
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| bookrat21 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Thank you guys so much. It seems I have a lot of reading to do. And, by the way, students in schools do NOT know nearly enough about this drug and how it can ruin lives. I guess that is a topic all in itself. I know what I should do. I guess I knew it all along. Will I have the guts to do it? I guess that is yet to be determined.
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| luvepiphany |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Jackie, a wonderful and "safe" place to explore your options and share your difficulties is the program for loved ones of alcoholics and addicts-NarAnon or AlAnon. Meetings are everywhere, are anonymous (which you better understand very quickly is very important to a teacher and a mother) and are filled with people who can share their experience strength and hope. You, unfortunately and fortunately, are very much not alone. If your boyfriend has many friend's in prison, there is a VERY high statistical chance that he will end up there too before long if he doesn't change his life completely. That is out of your control and something that can effect you. I only say this out of experience and care. Keep comin back here and you will find much loving and wise support.
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| scorpio |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Quote: Wow, your like a fresh little virgin at
this recovery stuff aren't you?
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| bookrat21 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Yes, I am a virgin, so far as asking anyone for help (besides him). However I am not so naive as far as seeing firsthand what this drug can do. Over the last year and a half I have gained much knowledge about how meth addicts live. My eyes were opened to finding out what neighbors, relatives and friends I had who were on this drug when I never would have known. I think the majority of people in this country are like I was and believe "what you don't know can't hurt you." Maybe to some extent that is true because I DO know now... and it HAS hurt me. However, am I better for knowing? Yes. But I agree; it's time for me to take my head out of the hole it's been in and do something about it.
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| bookrat21 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
OMG ... I just read the definition of codependency ... I am EVERY one of these things!!!! How could I have lived 35 years and not ever know this??? *controlling behavior *distrust *perfectionism *avoidance of feelings *intimacy problems *caretaking behavior *hyper vigilance (a heightened awareness for potential threat/danger) *physical illness related to stress Now that I know, how do I fix it? I know, I know.... READ, READ, READ!!!
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| scorpio |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Its easier to get help for this problem in a group, that's what alanon and Naranon are for, call your local AA group and ask about alanon,,, also, see a therapist if you can.
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nineyears clean |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Hi and welcome to the forum. We welcome you with open arms and open hearts. We are addicts, recovering addicts, loved ones and family members of addicts. We are here to support and encourage and teach and learn. Welcome home. There is much I want to address in your first post, but I'm a bit overloaded at work today, but rest assured you will learn a great deal here. Following is an article I came across regarding codependency that you might enjoy. Although I am a recovering addict, I am a classic codependent as well. It's a LONG article, but I presume you like to read. It helped me a lot. I'll be talking with you soon. Take care and again, welcome! ten years clean Codependency: Codependency is a terrible term. It has endless connotations that have nothing to do with the disorder. Codependency itself is such a broad dysfunction that it is extremely hard to define in concise terms. However, one therapist and friend summed up the condition thus: "I only wanted to be loved." Another simple definition that works is, "Codependency is a dysfunctional relationship with the self." Codependency is habitual behaviors that are ultimately self-destructive. Almost everyone (at times) has symptoms of codependency. No one escapes. Codependent behaviors can be stopped. Therapists, books, support groups, and constant and careful self-monitoring will help. In the end, healing from codependency is ultimately up to the individual. The following are a list of symptoms. Few have them all, some have a few, and many symptoms are contradictory, but that is the irony of Codependency. Symptoms: Care taking: the codependent individual feels responsible for other people. S/He feels anxious and even guilty when another has a problem. S/He feels compelled to help that person solve their problem. S/He anticipates the other's needs and feels angry when his help is not effective or rebuffed. At the same time, the codependent feels slighted that others won't help her/him out when s/he needs help. However, this same individual who is constantly doing way too much for others, and not getting "any" help from anyone, will usually answer when asked what is wrong or what do you need, responds, "Oh, nothing." The codependent minimizes his/her own worth. The codependent is his/her own worst enemy. The codependent is over committed, harried, pressured, feels safe when giving, but insecure when someone gives to him/her, goes out of her/his way to help others, and believes deep inside that other people are responsible for the way they are and will blame others for the "spot" they are in. Others make them feel the way they feel, they are victimized, angry, unappreciated, and used. Others are driving them crazy. Low Self Worth: codependents tend to come from troubled, dysfunctional families, and will deny this to the very end. They blame themselves for their family's shortcomings. They blame themselves for everything. They pick on themselves constantly: not intelligent enough, not pretty enough, not smart enough, not athletic enough, not good enough. But if another criticizes them, boy do they get defensive and angry, not to mention self-righteous. Don't try to give a codependent a compliment; they reject all compliments and praise, even though they get depressed from lack of compliments and praise. They feel "different" from the rest of the world. They reject themselves, but fear rejection. Everything is taken personally, they love being the victim (though will deny it with their last breath). They have been victims of sexual, physical, or emotional abuse, abandonment, neglect, and/or alcoholism. They feel like victims, carry lots of guilt and shame, and think their lives are not worth living. They should have done this, should have done that. They "should" themselves to death. Codependents say, "Why me?" on the outside, and know "why me" on the inside. While trying to prove to others that they are good enough, to themselves they are worthless and empty. Repression: most codependents repress their own needs, their own desires. They are afraid to let themselves be who they are and often appear rigid and controlled. They repress all thoughts of self worth out of their awareness and they are full of guilt. Codependents cannot have fun. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder: codependents worry. They worry about the slightest and silliest things: they worry that people are talking about them; they worry that people are not talking about them; they lose sleep over little things; they check up on others; they try to catch people in the act; they never find any answers, they focus on other's problems; they spend money compulsively; eat or drink compulsively; and wonder why they have no energy and why they never get anything done. Controlling Behaviors: codependents try to control events and people through helplessness, guilt, coercion, threats, advice-giving, manipulation, or domination. They are afraid to let people be who they are or let events happen naturally. They've lived in so many situations in which they had no control (abuse, alcoholism, etc) that they now try to control everything and get frustrated and angry when they cannot. They end up feeling controlled by events. They feel controlled by others. They resist change as if change were a contagion. Denial: codependents ignore problems or pretend they do not exist. They pretend things are not as bad as they are; they tell themselves it will get better; they stay busy to avoid thinking about things; they get confused, sick, depressed and visit doctors for a prescription. Many are workaholics. They lie to themselves and others. They believe their lies. And most of all, codependents will leave a healthy situation (by lying to themselves that it was an unhealthy situation) and get back into an unhealthy situation; though for the most part, most codependents either never leave an unhealthy situation/relationship, or they go from one unhealthy situation/relationship to another. Dependency: codependents do not feel happy or content with themselves. They look to others to supply them their happiness or their needs. They are threatened by the loss of anything or any person that provides them with their happiness. They do NOT love themselves. They did not feel loved by their parents. They equate love with pain and believe others are never, ever there for them. They need people more than they want them; their lives revolve around someone else's life; they tolerate abuse; feel trapped; leave one bad relationship and jump into another bad relationship. They wonder if they will ever find true love. And if they do find true love, they will leave that and find a loveless relationship because deep inside (often beneath consciousness) they feel unworthy of love. Poor Communication Skills: codependents blame, threaten, coerce, beg, bribe, and advise others. They don't mean what they say and don't say what they mean. They don't take themselves seriously and expect others to do the same. They avoid getting to the point, asking indirectly for attention by sighing, crying, or moping around. They say everything is their fault. They say nothing is their fault. They can't get to the point, and if pressed, they're not sure what the point really is. They believe their opinions do not matter and have difficulties asserting their rights or expressing honest emotions, openly and appropriately. They apologize for bothering people. Poor Boundaries: codependents say they won't tolerate something from anyone, and then engage themselves in exactly that. Then they gradually increase their tolerance levels till they can tolerate most anything others do to them. They allow others to hurt them, over and over and over again. They stay in bad relationships for all the wrong reasons: to fix the other; for the kids (like kids need to grow up in a loveless relationship); because things will get better; and worst of all: because they feel they deserve to live in hell. They complain and blame but far too many never get away from their abuser. Then they finally get angry and become totally intolerant and the cycle begins all over again. Lack of Trust: codependents do not trust themselves, their feelings, their decisions, other people, or even God. And then, right out of the blue, they'll trust someone who is totally untrustworthy. Sexual Problems: codependents go through cycles in the bedroom. They are caretakers there too. They have sex when they don't want to or withdraw sex to punish their partner. They try to have sex when they are hurt or angry, and refuse to enjoy it. They withdraw emotionally from their partner, feel revulsion toward their partner, and don't want to talk about it. They reduce sex to a technical act, wonder why they don't enjoy it; lose interest; make up reasons to abstain, wish their partner would die, go away, or guess what is wrong with them; they have strong sexual fantasies about others and consider having affairs. General: codependents can be extremely responsible or irresponsible, they become martyrs, sacrificing their own happiness. They find it difficult to be happy, feel close to others, or have fun and be spontaneous. They are passive aggressive, feeling passive, hurt, helpless yet violent and angry. They laugh when they want to cry. They are ashamed of their families, of their relationships. They cover up, lie, and protect their family from their problems. They don't seek help because they don't feel the problem is all that bad. And then they wonder why the problems never go away. From Bad to Worse: Progressively, if the codependent does not get help, the symptoms above just get worse. The codependent becomes lethargic and depressed and eventually withdraw and isolate themselves. Their daily routine falls by the wayside. They abuse or neglect the people who depend on them, mostly, their children. They feel utterly hopeless and initiate plans to escape. They contemplate suicide. They become violent, or seriously mentally or physically ill. They develop an eating (drinking or drug) disorder. Summary: Not all codependents have all of the above symptoms. If you have just 20% of the above symptoms, you can consider yourself a codependent. If you have 5 to 10% of the above symptoms, you are normal. Normal people are, at times, codependent. Even normal people can use a bit of therapy, a bit of healing. We are all, in many ways, self-destructive. None of us came from the Cleaver Family, Father does not know best, and our mothers were never as perfect as Donna Reed. The worst thing about being codependent is that the codependent wastes her/his life. The next worst thing about being codependent is we pass it on to our children, and in them, our symptoms are hugely magnified. Origins: The one question is how did we get this way? Prolonged exposure to oppression is the key here. As Earnie Larson states in his books and lectures (I'm paraphrasing here): "What we live with we learn; what we learn we practice; what we practice becomes habit; our habits have consequences." All of these behaviors are "learned." They can be unlearned. Everything boils down to this: we have little self worth; our happiness is found outside of ourselves. However, Earnie Larson has one more wonderful phrase that really sums up the codependent's situation or dilemma: "If nothing changes, nothing changes." We, the codependent, must DO something to initiate healing. It won't come from outside. It just doesn't happen. If nothing changes, nothing changes. Healing Codependency: Most people do not heal their codependency on their own. Let us face it, with all these symptoms flaring up, especially the denial, who could possibly see a way out? Most codependents are slapped upside the head by a friend: "Hey, you need help!" We do need help. We need the experience of others who have broken the cycles. We need a good therapist to help us see the light. We need friends who are open and honest with us. We need to sit and read a bit about ourselves, our problems, and the way out. Most of all, we need to know that we can be healed. This is NOT a permanent situation. But each person has to recognize the problem, admit to it, and then find the tools to help end it. The first and most important thing for a codependent to learn is that Happiness is inside of us, not something outside. A good relationship is good, not because of the person we love, but because of the person we are. One person does not a relationship make. Healing codependency is often referred to as "shifting our relationship with ourselves." Codependents must learn to accept their powerlessness over people and events. Recovery for a codependent is like recovery from alcohol or drug addiction and the same 12-step model is oftentimes employed: Let Go. Let God. The codependent must sometimes "fire" the people in their lives. If they are not willing to work through their issues, then we have to "fire" them and move on ourselves. But we must keep in mind that this is about us, not them. Recovery means learning to take responsibility for our own actions, issues, feelings, behaviors, and our lives. Recovery is not easy. Letting go of the need to control people, places, events is not easy. It is highly recommended to find a Codependent Anonymous (CoDA) group and attend regularly. Meetings, therapy, talking to fellow codependents, and reading and just plain being aware of our feelings and thoughts will ultimately set us free from our self-defeating patterns; from our fear and shame. Letting go of caretaking and all the energy expended in that fulltime effort frees up our energies to more constructive things. But finally know this: Your author has been through his own bouts with codependency. Hardly any of us are untouched by this. Healing is not only possible, it is wonderfully exhilarating. Once we step out of our destructive patterns, anything is possible. In a letter to a friend once, I wrote the following that I want to share with you: Old problems are much more comfortable than new solutions. But always keep in mind, that life begins on the edge of your comfort zone. Trust and listen to your intuition. If you listen to your mind, you will hear only the same old crap it?s been spewing for years. Unless you heal your past, your life, and recover from the abuse (self-inflicted and other-inflicted) your mind will not be your friend. Listen to your heart. Go with the flow. We come from either a place of fear or a place of love. From a place of love, we can do no wrong. From a place of fear, every action is a mistake. Fill your heart with love and you will surpass even your highest expectations.
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nineyears clean |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
ps: here's a link for you to find a CoDA meeting: www.codependents.org
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| bookrat21 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Thank you all. Finding this site may have changed my life dramatically. For the better.
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nineyears clean |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
Quote: That's what I'm talking' about!!
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| fatbob001 |
Re: In love with meth
addict, what do I do?
I am crying right now and can barely see to type so forgive me if i mess up. when i was about 23 i got married. We were together for about a year before we got married. My wife was six foot blonde and beautiful. She was young when we married. I was in basic and came home for Christmas and the wedding. I had to go back to training for a month. When i got back she said she was leaving. I of course asked why but she would not say. I thought it was because she was so young and had changed her mind. It wasn't. I had always been close with her family and saw them often. She didn't tell them either until two years later. That was eleven years ago. I'm now with a woman that says she has cooked meth herself and is an addict. When we first got together she wasn't using. She told me it is hard for her to not use when she is around people that are using. She is using now and its tearing us apart. She just wants to be with her using friends now. She has a lot of problems besides meth that are stressing her and the drug is the only thing she wants to make her feel ok with life. I am so heart broken I am losing faith in mankind and god and everything else. I don't know what to do but keep trying. I think she is leaving me because I don't do meth. She hasn't been around for a week and a half. I wish i did meth too. I just know what it is and what it does and i refuse to do that to myself. It hurts really bad that i cant use with her. I want to be there for her I just cant do that. I really love this woman she is smart, fun, pretty, all those good things. She needs me I think. But she wont hang out or anything. every time i see her she says she has to go do something and shell be rite back. She comes around the next day every day with that same story. I really miss her. I don't know if i should let go or hold on. I try to talk with her and she only gets upset with me. I cant have a conversation with her. She doesn't seem all that different to me except her behavior towards me. She seems to like everyone else just fine. She talks to them at length. Makes plans and all that. In our brief meetings she still says she loves me. I'm very confused. It doesn't make sense. That is until i read an article today. KCI psychological and physical problems with meth. It explained to me that I've lost my girl to meth and its all she wants. I'm not sure whether to be mad at them or thank them for the information. Basically it says (you can read it yourself on the net) when you use meth its like getting all the good feelings you would normally get for doing the things that help you survive. It then takes away your ability to have those same feelings about actually doing those things you do to survive. I'm not sure i'll survive all this anymore i cant compete with something like that. I've taken to just telling her i love her every time i see her. Maybe i can be something good to her. like a chocolate or something. Not that she craves chocolate when she's using. She is just high and doesn't crave anything till she comes down. and then she just wants meth. I'm lost hun and i know you are too. If you love him and you want him around just be there. If you cant anymore get someone to help you get him to rehab. Educate him. Tell him what he is doing to himself with that stuff. Leave some reading material laying around that explains what's up. get on the net and find info. Just type meth i did. I wish you all the love we are going to need it cause this is bad. they don't want anything but that crap and if we say no more we are the bad guys. the evil that wants to take away all the good. I am going to go cry now best wishes |
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