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Getting Tweaked from Exercising


gods
serenity
Getting Tweaked from Exercising
Hi Everyone, I have a question. I used meth for three years. I seriously slowed down early this year and stopped completely in September. I've recently started a low-carb diet and I'm doing 40 minutes on the elliptical trainer 4 times a week to combat the 30 lbs I've gained. While I read somewhere that meth metabolites are stored in your fat and then released as your body utilizes that fat, I really didn't pay it any attention. Now I'm paying it more attention because I'm seriously getting tweaked from the diet and/or exercise and I hate it. I hate the high and I hate the coming down more - which is why I quit in the first place.

Does anyone know what I can do to either combat the high or speed the excretion process up? I don't want to stop the dieting or exercising because it's working. Plus, I don't want meth stored in my fat ready to pop out at some unknown time in the future to get me high as a kite, then lower than hell.

Any help you can give me would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
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Juliett55 Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
I'm not a specialist, but just heard that it is very normal to get the high in the late recovery for a while. Exercise is great, keep that up.

One thing you might have to check (I studied that in nutrition) is what diet you are on. If you get to the point where your body starts to break down fat to feed the brain you go in to ketosis. That feels like you are actually getting high. I never used drugs but went through this with my eating disorder. I know that it is common with people on a protein diet or if you cut down calories too much; your glycogen stores empty out and you go in to ketosis. Your body's main job is to feed the brain. Brain can only use glucose or ketones. I can see where that combined with recovery from meth can make you feel this way.

Advice always: take at easy. Diet and exercise is good, but not severe.

Just a little share of my scientific background knowledge, hope it helps.
Venus
Jones69
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
I am not a scientist but I'm pretty sure the high that you're getting is as an exercise high, not from meth stored in fat being released into your system. When you exercise, it releases endorphins which give you a natural high. As a former user, you may be more sensitive to these highs and lows that the endorphins bring since they eventually wear off a few hours after exercise and make you feel like you're crashing. That's why some people develop an "exercise addiction" - they're addicted to the endorphin rush they receive from exercise.

Don't let that scare you, though - you're doing an amazing thing - keep it up. I used every day for over five years and doing yoga literally saved me from going back to meth after I quit. Now, after nearly four years, I still practice five days a week and I am still meth free!!

Congratulations!!
sunshine
skye
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
Hi S,

I went through the same thing. I'm pretty sure it's the meth stored in your fat that you're releasing.

If you have access to a sauna that's a great way to speed up the process. Otherwise, I'd just grit my teeth and know that once you get through it you won't ever have to do it again.

Take care.
gods
serenity
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
Thanks for the replies everyone. I appreciate the advice. I've low carbed and exercised in the past so I don't think it's from either one of those. It's not lasting hours. It's lasting days. Like getting up at 7 am on Monday, exercising sometime that day, going to bed at 3 am on Tuesday, tossing and turning until 5:30 am, then getting back up and finally collapsing at 1 am on Wednesday. It reminded me of hitting a bowl just a couple of times which doesn't give you a lot of energy but it's still enough to mess up your sleep but then you can still get up later and go about your day like normal - normal for a tweaker anyway.

I haven't exercised in a few days, primarily because I'm lazy but I also don't want to feel that way again. Starting tomorrow I'll start using the sauna afterwards and see if that helps any.
deeeCA Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
That is very strange... I would doubt that it's meth that was stored in the fat cells. Ketosis sounds more like it - or maybe just the natural energy high "endorphins" that people experience when they push their bodies aerobically. Loraura probably would know more..
gods
serenity
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
here's part of an article summary i found:
Summary of a Presentation Made to the American Academy of Environmental Medicine
Presented by David R. Root, MD., 1989 <

Dr. David Root is a physician specializing in occupational medicine with a private practice in Sacramento. California. He has treated numerous patients who had accumulated lipophilic chemicals through occupational exposure, using the method of detoxification developed by Hub-bard. In the course of his work, he has also treated approximately 75 drug abusers with this detoxification program. He recently reported the results of a follow-up study of these drug abuse patients at the annual meeting of the American Academy of Environmental Medicine.

The long-term success rate for drug and alcohol rehabilitation programs is not extremely high. Abstinence from drugs for 2 years after undergoing rehabilitation treatment by 30% of the patients is considered quite acceptable. This means that 70% of the patients are not succeeding in staying off of drugs. Such a recidivism rate is cause for deep concern. One hypothesis is that a hidden cause of recidivism amongst drug abusers is the presence in their bodies of residual levels of drugs and their metabolites. This led to the proposition that removing these compounds from the body would assist in the recovery of the drug abuser.

One program documented to reduce levels of fat-stored xenobiotics is the detoxification method developed by Hubbard. This program was originally developed to assist in the recovery of drug abusers. The program aims to mobilize and eliminate fat-stored xenobiotics. We have treated drug abusers using this detoxification procedure as the chief component of a drug rehabilitation program.

here's the definition for xebobiotics:

A xenobiotic is a chemical which is found in an organism but which is not normally produced or expected to be present in it. It can also cover substances which are present in much higher concentrations than are usual.

For example, drugs such as antibiotics are human xenobiotics because the human body does not produce them itself nor would they be expected to be present as part of a normal diet. However, the term is usually used in the context of pollutants such as dioxins and polychlorinated biphenyls and their effect on the biota. Natural compounds can also become xenobiotics if they are taken up by another organism (eg uptake of natural hormones excreted from humans by fish downstream of sewage treatment plant outfalls).

The body gets rid of xenobiotics by xenobiotic metabolism. This consists of the deactivation and the secretion of xenobiotics, and happens mostly at the liver. Secretion routes are urine, feces, breath and sweat. Hepatic enzymes are responsible for the metabolism of xenobiotics, by first activating them (oxidation, reduction, hydrolysis and/or hydration of the xenobiotic) and then conjugating the active secondary metabolite with glucuronic or sulphuric acid, or glutathione, followed by excretion in bile or urine.
gods
serenity
Re: Getting Tweaked from Exercising
From John A Logan College presentation on meth:

Storage and Metabolism in the Body


When a chemical enter your body, it may be immediately metabolized, or it may be metabolized slowly. Metabolisis occurs when the chemical structure of a compound is changed in the body. Products of metabolism are called metabolites. Metabolites may be more harmful than the chemical itself. Blood and urine tests for chemical exposure actually test for the presence of the chemical and/or its metabolites.

Physiologically Clearing Chemicals

Once chemicals are metabolized, they are either excreted or stored. Excretion can occur through urine, feces, breath or perspiration. Storage can occur in your liver or bones, and the chemicals can be slowly released back into the body. Water-soluble chemicals are often excreted, and fat-soluble chemicals are often stored.

See also:

Tweaking - Defined, Definition, Explained ... What is Tweaking?

The Crystal Meth Myth

Why did you quit meth?


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