silly
veronica |
Meth drug testing a week
later
NOW (a week later), he
says he's willing to take any drug test I will have him take,
including a blood test.
So my question is -- I know with urine tests, meth only stays in
your system 3-4 days. What about with a blood test? Or a hair
test (he keeps his hair VERY short)? Are there clinics that will
administer a blood drug test?
He says I'm basing EVERYTHING (the failure of the relationship)
on him not taking the drug test last Friday. While that is
partially true (that was the end all, be all for me), there were
obviously MANY things that led up to the finality of it for me
(as most of you already know, I won't get into details).
But now I'm curious - is his offer for a blood test another
stall tactic, and when I say, okay, let's do it, he'll back out
... or does he already know what I don't, and that maybe the
meth wouldn't be in his system still anyway a week later? |
Replies... |
Paws
from
hell |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Quote:
is his offer for a blood test another
stall tactic, and when I say, okay, let's do it, he'll back
out
That would be this recovering addicts
behavior when I was using...
Meth is detectable with a UA for about 72 hours, most drugs
are,, except Pot, and Alcohol.
Quote:
Are there clinics that will
administer a blood drug test?
Why?
He wants to pop a UA tell him it will be random, whenever
he's called up for it anytime , any day , for as long as you ,
YOU wish..
If he's clean and recovering he'll have no problem
dropping a clean UA, anytime for the rest of his life. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
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Why?
GOOD point (yes, I needed reminded). I think
I just get caught up in the truth (is he telling me the truth)?
So when he brought up the blood test, I thought, "Hmm, well if
it legitimately would show results from use that week" ... but
IT DOESN'T MATTER (and thank you for reminding me). |
| Loraura |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
No point
giving him a urine or blood test now.
Hair might be able to capture it, and when people keep their
hair very short, they WILL take hair from other *cough* body
parts, such as the underarm (most men don't shave there!).
Hair analysis is a bit more expensive, but you should be able to
contact a drug testing place and have them do it, but you'd have
to pay for it, probably in advance. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Quote:
Hair might be able to capture it, and
when people keep their hair very short, they WILL take hair
from other *cough* body parts, such as the underarm (most
men don't shave there!).
I'm laughing hysterically ... a light bulb
just went off. My addict shaves all of his "private area" and
his underarms (I'm not kidding). He doesn't shave his legs, so I
suppose they could take a leg hair (will that work?)
He used to be a bodybuilder (long before the meth use) and he
shaved his entire body back when he competed. I've just always
assumed that's why he still does it ... but now I'm wondering
....
Sorry, it made me laugh and I'm probably sharing too much info.
And NO, I won't be entertaining him with another drug test
opportunity. When he offered the blood test, I just assumed that
would be a legit way of knowing past use. If it's not, then I
can only assume he already knew that and that's why he offered.
Thanks for the info, guys (and ladies)!!! |
| Loraura |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Leg hair
should work.
Meth can only be detected in blood until the kidney's break it
down and it's broken down components are excreted in urine. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Quote:
Meth can only be detected in blood
until the kidney's break it down and it's broken down
components are excreted in urine.
And being the smart man that he is
(really, he is VERY smart, especially for as equally stupid as
he is), he probably already knew this and that's why he offered.
You're so smart ... THANK YOU for the info! |
| Cabird |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Go to this
site to learn about hair testing. This is the lab we have used.
But the hair is not taken at this lab. It is taken at a
collection lab and sent to Omega. Every city has drug testing
places and most all do the collection of hair for testing too.
It is usually sent out to a lab.
www.omegalabs.net/aboutha...ngfaq.aspx
Hair taken from the head will go back 3 months. Under arm and
pubic goes back farther and sometimes as far as a year.
I would be very suspicious of an addict who shaves all the areas
where hair can be collected for testing. I don't think leg hair
will work. But there is another test that will. It is called
complete urine/adulteration. I believe Omega does that test too.
There are other labs who do it too. I don't know what it costs. Hair testing costs 3 times as much as urine screening tests. But
there are most definitely ways around someone who thinks they
can beat a drug test. But it will cost. If an addict is actively
using they would most likely refuse the tests anyway. They can
easily go off meth long enough to pass a urine test and get the
heat off. Then they tell the world they passed a drug test. |
Spase
monkey |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
I really
agree with Paws on this one.
If he's willing to take a random UA whenever you ask him to
indefinitely then sure... but waiting a week then volunteering
to be tested doesn't prove anything.
Meth stays in your blood a shorter time than in your urine
really... I've mostly heard of them using it on people who
refuse to pee for the cops.
You know better what's going on than anyone else though... and
if you made the decision to break of the relationship you
probably had very good reason. I know that kind of decision
isn't easy. |
goss
amerblue |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Just a suggestion, Google how to
cheat a drug test. He probably did. Sorry to tell you there are
as many ways to cheat them as to give them. Even if it came back
positive what are the chances that he would look at it and say
"The test must have been faulty" mine did the first time around.
I thought about ordering the hair test online but my friend
pointed out that my husband would say that I contaminated the
hair sample and made it read a false positive, so why didn't I
take the $80 and buy myself something nice instead.
Veronica, do you need a nice new something instead of more
frustration and heartbreak? |
silly
veronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Trust me, I've been
around the block with this drug testing issue.
My addict had the Whizzinator, among other things. That's why I
did the surprise urine test last Friday - but of course, he
couldn't pee in front of me and got mad and left when I
insisted.
That's why with a blood test, I was thinking it would be
overseen by a professional, how do you mess with blood, etc. But
as I've learned here this morning, that won't work either.
Pretty much I already know my answer. Was just curious the angle
he was coming from with the offer to take a blood test.
Should've known. |
another
family
messed
up
bymeth |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
You know the answer. His
goal, above all else, is to plant a seed of doubt in you that he
can then exploit. YOU KNOW THE TRUTH. Don't let him make you
doubt yourself. |
angie
Ncali |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
SillyV Your a Sweet girl
- and I think you're great. way too good for this so I say to
you
WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHERING AND OR STILL ASKING
QUESTIONS - I HAVE NEVER EVEN MET HIM -
But trust me when I say I know him - inside and out like the
back of my hand. Because I have been him - I have had many a
boyfriends that were him. I have never ever MET Him and I can
assure you - that he is using. He is a Liar. He isn't not and
has not yet been willing to give up that life and it is SO
painfully clear -
You know this. But you don't wanna accept it.
So why test him.
if he truly was clean - HE WOULD HAVE TESTED FOR YOU THE OTHER
DAY. |
angie
NcaliS |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
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he couldn't pee in front of me and
got mad and left when I insisted.
SillyV - He could of Pee'd. He just
wouldn't. Faking Mad is a good cover up.
I know you know this though.
Couldn't
&
Wouldn't
2 totally different things. |
Now
What |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Lets just say for sh!ts
and giggles that he hasn't used.
So he got mad at you and treated you like sh!t for no good
reason? Is this his normal temperament? Do you like being
treated that way?
I think if I was him I'd rather have the excuse that using made
me act or treat you that way.
I think what I'm trying to say is what matters most here is the
way he treats you. Who gives a flying F if he's using. Let him
find someone else to put up with his charming temperament....
unless of course you enjoy it. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
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WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHERING AND OR
STILL ASKING QUESTIONS
I know, I know ... in case you missed my post
earlier in the week - I have been avoiding him and having no
contact with him. He offered to go to church with me and then
wanted to spend time with the kids. I told him that I couldn't
allow that without knowing he was clean and that's where the
urine test came into play. After him-hawing around, he refused
to take the test. He got mad and left and I've had no other
contact with him since then.
Except him now calling and saying I wasn't being fair, he IS
clean, and he wants to prove it with a blood test.
I know I've wavered before, back and forth back and forth ...
but I really am done this time. And as I just reread my own
post, I SEE where my fault comes into it (allowing him to even
come over for the test) - it should have been a NO! from the
get-go, regardless if he's clean or not. |
Lives
With
Wolves |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
I totally agree with what
Angie said.
I know, I play the fool CONSTANTLY, and get mad when I realize I
have been played once again. I SO WANT TO BELIEVE.
But reality is what it is and sometimes REALITY SUCKS!
Just focus on yourself......that is my message to myself today
as well. |
Nyte
Passion |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
Hey I know when I was
using .. and asked to take a drug test .. usually the person
asking was just bluffing and wasn't really going to have me take
one .. but wanted to see my reaction .. and if I were to say No
that would mean I was guilty of using .. but if I said yes then
I wasn't ... Of course I'd always be more than willing ..
because I knew they weren't going to have me go through with it
.. but if someone was actually serious .. I'd back out .. be
insulted and blame them for not believing in me .. When you have
a co-dependent the addict can easily twist and turn things
around to where it ends up that YOU feel like shyte for doubting
them .. and now you feel like a bad person .. find yourself
explaining all the whys, what's that caused you to do such a
thing ..
Don't let him Bullshyte you .. if he was really clean He'd want
to prove it to you .. He'd be at your doorstep begging you to
let him prove it to you .. He'd be proud that he was clean and
that you were indeed wrong .. or if he was clean and you asked
him to take a test he would without hesitation .. gladly ..
without backing out .. because he'd have nothing to worry about
.. With being clean .. there comes a pride .. it is like an
honor to be clean and we wear it with proudly .. and with
gratefulness .. if we were doubted for any reason .. we would
gladly take a test to keep that honor .. at least I know I would
..
He's using .. he knows it .. and that is what all the bullshyte
is about .. I bet if you tell him the test he'll be taking also
test for ingredients used to clean the system to pass test - So
if he is trying to clean his test .. you'll know that too ..
watch him freak even harder ..
You already know the answers .. just like you'll know beyond a
shadow of a doubt the day he truly does get clean .. it will
show in his behavior and treatment of you .. there will be a
remarkable difference one that you can't miss ... and his
actions will match his words visa versa ..
Keep your head on straight .. don't doubt yourself .. you know
what you know .. and you know he is an addict. |
angie
Ncali |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
SillyV- I read that post
earlier in the week. I understand all of that. But when he DID
NOT TAKE THE TEST THAT DAY.
DONE DEAL. You had distance between you and him - Good. But you
have done that before. Which I too understand - I understand
loving someone- I understand caring for them ... I understand
the hoping for things to be a certain way ...
But I also Understand him.
VERRRRRY WELL.
He calls. You have no real idea what he's been up to. He figures
the church route will make you think he is doing good again
..... you partly do hope he is.
But time and experience has made you know enough to that isn't
enough. You KNOW the Signs. You are always on the look out.
You say tests. He panics thinks OH SH*T game is up
Everything from after you asked him to test was a back peddle
and a tweaker in his finest moments of FEAR INDUCED
manipulation.
AGAIN. |
silly
veronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week later
You're right (again) ...
darn you anyway (smiling!) And I do know ... I just keep hoping,
I guess. That's the one piece I need to let go off ... that and
wishing he'd just cut off communication with me (would make it
SOOOO much easier). |
