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| sillyveronica |
Meth drug testing a week
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NOW (a week later), he says he's willing to take any drug test I will have him take, including a blood test. So my question is -- I know with urine tests, meth only stays in your system 3-4 days. What about with a blood test? Or a hair test (he keeps his hair VERY short)? Are there clinics that will administer a blood drug test? He says I'm basing EVERYTHING (the failure of the relationship) on him not taking the drug test last Friday. While that is partially true (that was the end all, be all for me), there were obviously MANY things that led up to the finality of it for me (as most of you already know, I won't get into details). But now I'm curious - is his offer for a blood test another stall tactic, and when I say, okay, let's do it, he'll back out ... or does he already know what I don't, and that maybe the meth wouldn't be in his system still anyway a week later?
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| Paws from hell |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
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That would be this recovering addicts
behavior when I was using... Quote: Why?
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| sillyveronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later Quote:GOOD point (yes, I needed reminded). I think I just get caught up in the truth (is he telling me the truth)? So when he brought up the blood test, I thought, "Hmm, well if it legitimately would show results from use that week" ... but IT DOESN'T MATTER (and thank you for reminding me).
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| Loraura |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later No point giving him a urine or blood test now. Hair might be able to capture it, and when people keep their hair very short, they WILL take hair from other *cough* body parts, such as the underarm (most men don't shave there!). Hair analysis is a bit more expensive, but you should be able to contact a drug testing place and have them do it, but you'd have to pay for it, probably in advance.
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| sillyveronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later Quote: I'm laughing hysterically ... a light bulb
just went off. My addict shaves all of his "private area" and
his underarms (I'm not kidding). He doesn't shave his legs, so I
suppose they could take a leg hair (will that work?)
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| Loraura |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later Leg hair should work. Meth can only be detected in blood until the kidney's break it down and it's broken down components are excreted in urine.
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| sillyveronica |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later Quote: And being the smart man that he is
(really, he is VERY smart, especially for as equally stupid as
he is), he probably already knew this and that's why he offered.
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| Cabird |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later Go to this site to learn about hair testing. This is the lab we have used. But the hair is not taken at this lab. It is taken at a collection lab and sent to Omega. Every city has drug testing places and most all do the collection of hair for testing too. It is usually sent out to a lab. www.omegalabs.net/aboutha...ngfaq.aspx Hair taken from the head will go back 3 months. Under arm and pubic goes back farther and sometimes as far as a year. I would be very suspicious of an addict who shaves all the areas where hair can be collected for testing. I don't think leg hair will work. But there is another test that will. It is called complete urine/adulteration. I believe Omega does that test too. There are other labs who do it too. I don't know what it costs. Hair testing costs 3 times as much as urine screening tests. But there are most definitely ways around someone who thinks they can beat a drug test. But it will cost. If an addict is actively using they would most likely refuse the tests anyway. They can easily go off meth long enough to pass a urine test and get the heat off. Then they tell the world they passed a drug test.
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| Spasemonkey |
Re: Meth drug testing a week
later I really agree with Paws on this one. If he's willing to take a random UA whenever you ask him to indefinitely then sure... but waiting a week then volunteering to be tested doesn't prove anything. Meth stays in your blood a shorter time than in your urine really... I've mostly heard of them using it on people who refuse to pee for the cops. You know better what's going on than anyone else though... and if you made the decision to break of the relationship you probably had very good reason. I know that kind of decision isn't easy. Peace.
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| gossamerblue |
Drug Tests
Just a suggestion, Google how to cheat a drug test. He probably did. Sorry to tell you there are as many ways to cheat them as to give them. Even if it came back positive what are the chances that he would look at it and say "The test must have been faulty" mine did the first time around. I thought about ordering the hair test online but my friend pointed out that my husband would say that I contaminated the hair sample and made it read a false positive, so why didn't I take the $80 and buy myself something nice instead. Veronica, do you need a nice new something instead of more frustration and heartbreak? Gossamer
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| sillyveronica |
Re: Drug Tests
Trust me, I've been around the block with this drug testing issue. My addict had the Whizzinator, among other things. That's why I did the surprise urine test last Friday - but of course, he couldn't pee in front of me and got mad and left when I insisted. That's why with a blood test, I was thinking it would be overseen by a professional, how do you mess with blood, etc. But as I've learned here this morning, that won't work either. Pretty much I already know my answer. Was just curious the angle he was coming from with the offer to take a blood test. Should've known.
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anotherfamily messedup bymeth |
Re: Drug Tests
You know the answer. His goal, above all else, is to plant a seed of doubt in you that he can then exploit. YOU KNOW THE TRUTH. Don't let him make you doubt yourself.
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| angieNcali |
Re: Drug Tests
SillyV Your a Sweet girl - and I think you're great. way too good for this so I say to you WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHERING AND OR STILL ASKING QUESTIONS - I HAVE NEVER EVEN MET HIM - But trust me when I say I know him - inside and out like the back of my hand. Because I have been him - I have had many a boyfriends that were him. I have never ever MET Him and I can assure you - that he is using. He is a Liar. He isn't not and has not yet been willing to give up that life and it is SO painfully clear - You know this. But you don't wanna accept it. So why test him. if he truly was clean - HE WOULD HAVE TESTED FOR YOU THE OTHER DAY.
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| angieNcaliS |
Re: Drug Tests
Quote: SillyV - He could of Pee'd. He just
wouldn't. Faking Mad is a good cover up.
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| NowWhat |
Re: Drug Tests
Lets just say for sh!ts and giggles that he hasn't used. So he got mad at you and treated you like sh!t for no good reason? Is this his normal temperament? Do you like being treated that way? I think if I was him I'd rather have the excuse that using made me act or treat you that way. I think what I'm trying to say is what matters most here is the way he treats you. Who gives a flying F if he's using. Let him find someone else to put up with his charming temperament.... unless of course you enjoy it.
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| sillyveronica |
Re: Drug Tests
Quote:I know, I know ... in case you missed my post earlier in the week - I have been avoiding him and having no contact with him. He offered to go to church with me and then wanted to spend time with the kids. I told him that I couldn't allow that without knowing he was clean and that's where the urine test came into play. After him-hawing around, he refused to take the test. He got mad and left and I've had no other contact with him since then. Except him now calling and saying I wasn't being fair, he IS clean, and he wants to prove it with a blood test. I know I've wavered before, back and forth back and forth ... but I really am done this time. And as I just reread my own post, I SEE where my fault comes into it (allowing him to even come over for the test) - it should have been a NO! from the get-go, regardless if he's clean or not.
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LivesWith Wolves |
Re: Drug Tests
I totally agree with what Angie said. I know, I play the fool CONSTANTLY, and get mad when I realize I have been played once again. I SO WANT TO BELIEVE. But reality is what it is and sometimes REALITY SUCKS! Just focus on yourself......that is my message to myself today as well.
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| NytePassion |
Re: Drug Tests
Hey I know when I was using .. and asked to take a drug test .. usually the person asking was just bluffing and wasn't really going to have me take one .. but wanted to see my reaction .. and if I were to say No that would mean I was guilty of using .. but if I said yes then I wasn't ... Of course I'd always be more than willing .. because I knew they weren't going to have me go through with it .. but if someone was actually serious .. I'd back out .. be insulted and blame them for not believing in me .. When you have a co-dependent the addict can easily twist and turn things around to where it ends up that YOU feel like shyte for doubting them .. and now you feel like a bad person .. find yourself explaining all the whys, what's that caused you to do such a thing .. Don't let him Bullshyte you .. if he was really clean He'd want to prove it to you .. He'd be at your doorstep begging you to let him prove it to you .. He'd be proud that he was clean and that you were indeed wrong .. or if he was clean and you asked him to take a test he would without hesitation .. gladly .. without backing out .. because he'd have nothing to worry about .. With being clean .. there comes a pride .. it is like an honor to be clean and we wear it with proudly .. and with gratefulness .. if we were doubted for any reason .. we would gladly take a test to keep that honor .. at least I know I would .. He's using .. he knows it .. and that is what all the bullshyte is about .. I bet if you tell him the test he'll be taking also test for ingredients used to clean the system to pass test - So if he is trying to clean his test .. you'll know that too .. watch him freak even harder .. You already know the answers .. just like you'll know beyond a shadow of a doubt the day he truly does get clean .. it will show in his behavior and treatment of you .. there will be a remarkable difference one that you can't miss ... and his actions will match his words visa versa .. Keep your head on straight .. don't doubt yourself .. you know what you know .. and you know he is an addict. Passion
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| angieNcali |
Re: Drug Tests
SillyV- I read that post earlier in the week. I understand all of that. But when he DID NOT TAKE THE TEST THAT DAY. DONE DEAL. You had distance between you and him - Good. But you have done that before. Which I too understand - I understand loving someone- I understand caring for them ... I understand the hoping for things to be a certain way ... But I also Understand him. VERRRRRY WELL. He calls. You have no real idea what he's been up to. He figures the church route will make you think he is doing good again ..... you partly do hope he is. But time and experience has made you know enough to that isn't enough. You KNOW the Signs. You are always on the look out. You say tests. He panics thinks OH SH*T game is up Everything from after you asked him to test was a back peddle and a tweaker in his finest moments of FEAR INDUCED manipulation. AGAIN. |
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| sillyveronica |
Re: Drug Tests
You're right (again) ... darn you anyway (smiling!) And I do know ... I just keep hoping, I guess. That's the one piece I need to let go off ... that and wishing he'd just cut off communication with me (would make it SOOOO much easier).
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| Time4Change |
Re: Drug Tests
Heh Heh.. I'm beginning to think Chad could charm the pants off a snake. Stand your ground! |
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