Meth verses Ecstasy

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MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine), most commonly known today by the street name ecstasy, is a synthetic entactogen of the phenethylamine family whose primary effect is to stimulate the secretion of and inhibit the re-uptake of large amounts of serotonin as well as dopamine and noradrenaline in the brain, causing a general sense of openness, empathy, energy, euphoria, and well-being. Tactile sensations are enhanced for some users, making general physical contact with others more pleasurable; but, contrary to popular mythology it generally does not have aphrodisiac effects. Its ability to facilitate self-examination with reduced fear has proven useful in some therapeutic settings, leading to its 2001 approval by the United States FDA for testing in patients with post-traumatic stress disorder.

Acute dehydration is a risk among users who are highly physically active and forget to drink water, as the drug may mask one's normal sense of exhaustion and thirst. Also the opposite, "water intoxication" resulting in acute hyponatremia has been reported. By far the biggest danger comes from the fact that other, more dangerous chemicals (such as PMA, DXM or methamphetamine) are either added to ecstasy tablets, or more often simply sold as ecstasy. Long-term effects in humans are largely unknown and the subject of much controversy —particularly with regard to the risks of severe long-term depression as a result of a reduction in the natural production of serotonin.

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Mescaline or 3,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine is a psychedelic hallucinogenic drug and entheogen of the phenethylamine family. It is either synthesized (as mescaline sulfate) or extracted from the peyote cactus (Lophophora williamsii), the San Pedro cactus (Echinopsis pachanoi), or the Peruvian Torch cactus (Echinopsis peruviana). It is also found in a number of other members of the Cactaceae.

The use of extract from peyote in Native American religious ceremonies has been noted since the earliest European contact, notably by the Huichols in Mexico. It was first isolated and identified in 1897 by the German Arthur Heffter and first synthesized in 1919. The effective human dosage is 200–400 milligrams (3.75 mg/kg), with the effects lasting for up to twelve hours. It is not physically addictive. In the US it was made illegal in 1970 by the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act. It was prohibited internationally by the 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances[1] and is categorised as a Schedule I hallucinogen by the CSA. Users typically experience visual hallucinations and radically altered states of consciousness, often experienced as pleasurable and illuminating but occasionally as accompanied by feelings of anxiety or revulsion.

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Do not know do not really care, addiction is more about the void or the escape of the person and not the drug it self

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And on the other hand, there are some of us who do care.

If you really don't care, why do you post such things?
I'm not trying to chide you, but I'm wondering, if we post things, shouldn't they be honest or factual.

I also care about the psychological and emotional parts, but those need the support of the science also.

Now then, I admit I am often as capable of error as anyone and I often apologize when wrong. I'm trying to learn to more kindness also.

Just trying to keep the peace and post correct info together. (not always easy)

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I feel like he is trying to downplay his meth use by comparing it to X.

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To answer the original post... While Ecstasy does not seem to get the negative public attention that meth is now getting - it is still a very dangerous substance. Meth tends to hook into the human reward system better than Ecstasy and is thus generally considered more addictive. I guess the simplest solution is ask him to stop using ALL mind altering substances even for a week and see how he does - then ask him how addictive he thinks whatever substance he has used is?

Most users do not realize they are addicted until they try to stop or control their use. If you do not believe this just try to eliminate all caffeine from your diet (coffee, teas, colas, chocolate, medicines with caffeine, etc.). Any headaches, tremors, irritability, muscle twitches?